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silverfox89
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 Posted - 12/28/2006 : 09:14:18
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well i lost my license for 6 months and well i think im gonna sell the fox.. not sure if i cna keep it on the road.. needs some repairs.. i was lookin at this scirocco down the road and i might pick that up it runs good but is a little sketchy... put it in my dads building and fix that up over my 6 months haha.. anyways just lookin to see if u guys think i sould sell it or keep it.. any suggestions????
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tougefox
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Posted - 12/28/2006 : 18:28:10
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| Well its up to you bro. I lost my license a while back and i had a new car. So unfortunately i had to sell it. If you build a fox right its a lot more unique than a rocco imo. |
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silverfox89
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Canada
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 11:17:18
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| Ya ur probably right.. way more rocco's round then foxes but i mean the way i see it is that the rocco is more cosmetic then anything and i dont have room or money to do a ABA swap or anything kool to make it scat along so im lost |
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tougefox
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Posted - 01/01/2007 : 02:12:27
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| how do u have room and money to mod a rocco but not room and money to mod a fox? |
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silverfox89
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Canada
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snowfox
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 16:40:15
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Originally posted by silverfox89
... it seems like theres allways one problem after another
And the Scirocco will be sooo much better... Sheesh.
There's always going to be 'one problem after another' on an older car. You combat it by going through and completely rebuilding things so that they aren't 'old' anymore.
For example, my suspension is getting pretty worn. I will combat it by going through ALL of it at once. It's time for all new strut bearings, front bearings and hubs, rear inners and outers and seals, dampers at all four corners, dust boots/wipers, and possible tie rod ends and ball joints as well. (all followed by an alignment) It's going to cost me some coin (~$400 for dampers alone), but when it's finished, it's all new. What's the option? Ditch the car? When it's clapped out and needing repairs like this I probably couldn't get more than 650 for it. Take the 650 plus the additional 650 or so I need to spend and plunk 1300 down on.... another newer clapped out POS that need another 650+ in repairs? I think not. I'll stick with the mess that I already know... That's just me though.
Stick with your Fox. |
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silverfox89
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Canada
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 19:37:18
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| ya thanks for the advice.. i love my fox to death no lie.. but yeah sometimes it just seems easier to sell it, but i want to keep it so i may but id like to hear alot of feedback on this...so lost!!!! but here my main concern is that my car has 232,789 km on it and its not bad right now but i can feel it gettin worse and now it smokes a bit and smells a bit when u run it.. im not sure how long its gonna last like that... my brakes make a grinding sound when u drive so my brakes are pretty much shot...hmmm is that it? nope my 4 speed hates 3rd gear like u gotta ram it in.... so do u see my point.. i dont make much money so its hard to do this and i hate to see it rot in the yard when someoneelse who appriciates the uniqness of the fox comes along and can do somethin with it... but id rather have the money to do it myslef ;) |
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bignivanut
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Canada
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Posted - 01/02/2007 : 23:45:07
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I feel your pain brother.
Here in the great white north, at least east of Manitoba have this nasty thing called rust. Not just the stuff you get on the roof and hood from to much sun, but serious ROT in every place you could imagine and Foxes seem to be more at risk than most other VWs, except for the original bug.
I am still hunting for that elusive Clean or even Solid wagon but most are not even worth repairing..... I will, but when I do it will be stored in the winter. I have been tearing apart my 87 parts car and do appreciate the way they are built, but wow they really have some problem areas. I wish I could snap my fingers and have one from California here, even a naked shell.
Sorry about the rant. I am going to look at 2 88fox wagons on Thursday and I'm a little excited because on is from Canada's west coast, or was?       |
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snowfox
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Posted - 01/03/2007 : 10:22:58
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my car has 232,789 km That's nothing for a Fox. Mine has over 249,000 MILES on it - 401,000 km.
it smokes a bit and smells a bit when u run it.. im not sure how long its gonna last like that... A quick compression check and possibly a leakdown check could help you pinpoint the smoke issue and get it corrected. If the motor is pooched, you could slap another used motor in there for just a couple hundred.
... my brakes make a grinding sound when u drive so my brakes are pretty much shot... I think you can probably replace all your stock parts (rotors, pads, and shoes), including turning the drums for less than $150. Try and do it that cheap with any other car...
is that it? nope my 4 speed hates 3rd gear like u gotta ram it in.... Your shifter is probably both out of adjustment and in need of new shifter bushings - probably fresh gear oil as well. The adjustment is $0, the bushings are maybe $25, regular gear oil is maybe $5 (obviously more if you use synthetic...) The worst case is you'll be junkyarding for another gear box - maybe $100?
i dont make much money so its hard to do this That's the number one reason to stick with a Fox. I think it's even cheaper to fix than my old Bug... |
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silverfox89
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snowfox
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Posted - 01/08/2007 : 15:20:46
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Originally posted by silverfox89
if i were to replace the busted ol 1.8 i think id step up to an ABA... how much extra $ and work would be involved in doing this?
How much extra compared to doing a straight swap 1.8 to 1.8? I would guess probably a couple hundred more, tops. Swapping in an ABA is the same as installing the 1.8 - as far the mechanics of bolting it in and hooking it up. There is a little extra work to do before you bolt in, though. You will need to swap the Fox oil pan and pick up tube on to it. You will need to block off the crank case breather. You will need to contact TT for a distributor adapter. (They also sell the breather block off, but you can make your own for less $$$.) You will also have to put a counter flow (Fox style and pre MkIII A chassis style) cylinder head on, so you'll need to pick up a 2L 16V head gasket and new head bolts (check with TT). Those are the things you'll NEED. The things you SHOULD do while you're in there include timing belt, idler pulley, water pump/t-stat, new motor/trans mounts, and a new clutch. For motor mounts, use the TT "A1 race mount" at the front snubber and E30 BMW mounts at the sides. (Tell the parts guy you have an 87 325i and you'll get the right stuff for the main mounts.) A stock trans mount will do, but there are some modified units floating around to stiffen that up if necessary. The things you WANT (and your 2L will thank you for) are a dual out manifold with TT pipes all the way back, a big valve head, bigger cam, and a big throttle body
Obviously, doing the NEEDs isn't so bad - getting into the SHOULDs and then into the WANTs starts to add up though. |
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silverfox89
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snowfox
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Posted - 01/08/2007 : 18:40:41
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The ultimate bargain basement deal is finding a running motor out of like an 86 Golf. All you have to do -bare minimum- is swap over your oil pan and pick-up tube and your intake and exhaust. It will have the same injection and controls as your Fox. If you get the right engine code, you'll also end up with 10:1 compression instead of the Fox's 9:1. I forget the engine codes for the 10:1 off hand - check with the mkII specialists, they'll know. You *may* be able to pick up a 'decent' to 'good' running motor for as little as like 150 bucks.
Going all out with an ABA, you could try to buy a zero mile crate motor like I did. 1400 or 1500 on the crate(in 98) with the GTI head, hydro G cam, and ready to go. The nickels and dimes for the 'SHOULDs' and the 'WANTs' added up to probably closer to 2000 or so when all was said and done - plus the 200 I paid for installation. (I had a guy named Karl-Heinz Ruttke who was VW factory certified in Germany take care of the transplant.) A lot of money? Not really. I've put 160,000 miles on the conversion and it's still going strong. You get what you pay for sometimes... I also believe you could get the exact same set-up for a bit less than that now, too. A lot of money can be saved by sourcing a used ABA. You can get one for a couple hundred or so... |
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Sellin my fox :(
